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	<title>Comments on: Finally &#8211; an agile workflow</title>
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		<title>By: davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/11/finally-an-agile-workflow-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 05:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s do it on WikiEducator.  I started to think about it there a while back and then got busy doing other stuff.  http://wikieducator.org/Agile_wOERkflow

Seems to me there are some major gaps in the whole OER movement related to scaffolding straightforward (agile) process for creation and reuse in a manner that makes the processes feasible/accessible to instructors.  Currently the pain-for-gain threshold seems way too high. 

I&#039;ll read your paper, Peter.  Thanks for providing the link..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s do it on WikiEducator.  I started to think about it there a while back and then got busy doing other stuff.  <a href="http://wikieducator.org/Agile_wOERkflow" rel="nofollow">http://wikieducator.org/Agile_wOERkflow</a></p>
<p>Seems to me there are some major gaps in the whole OER movement related to scaffolding straightforward (agile) process for creation and reuse in a manner that makes the processes feasible/accessible to instructors.  Currently the pain-for-gain threshold seems way too high. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll read your paper, Peter.  Thanks for providing the link..</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Rawsthorne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Rawsthorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 04:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t realize we have been thinking about the same things... http://www.rawsthorne.org/bit/docs/RawsthorneAIDFinal.pdf Now this isn&#039;t directed at OER but it is directed at Agility in Instructional Design... I&#039;d actually like to rewrite the paper to be Agile Learner Design and empower the learner to develop their own OER...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t realize we have been thinking about the same things&#8230; <a href="http://www.rawsthorne.org/bit/docs/RawsthorneAIDFinal.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawsthorne.org/bit/docs/RawsthorneAIDFinal.pdf</a> Now this isn&#8217;t directed at OER but it is directed at Agility in Instructional Design&#8230; I&#8217;d actually like to rewrite the paper to be Agile Learner Design and empower the learner to develop their own OER&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/11/finally-an-agile-workflow-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, Scott.  Always appreciated

However, I think the diagram describes more than an IP clearance process.  Embedded within it are processes called:  creation, quality control and technical.  I know I have heard you speak (lament) on the quality control (or lack thereof) item at various stages of OER development processes.

These are macro process categories, that while not described in any detail, announce that there are multiple steps in the OER creation and reuse process that also need to be further described and/or built-out in a more convivial manner.  

For me, this diagram represents a high-level view that could form the basis for a more detailed &quot;how-to,&quot; or form the basis of a workshop series that explored all of the *actual* behaviours and practices you note. It might then begin to frame the optimal processes in a *useful and usable* set of resources that could attract more instructors to both create and reuse in whatever manner seemed most efficacious *to them.*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Scott.  Always appreciated</p>
<p>However, I think the diagram describes more than an IP clearance process.  Embedded within it are processes called:  creation, quality control and technical.  I know I have heard you speak (lament) on the quality control (or lack thereof) item at various stages of OER development processes.</p>
<p>These are macro process categories, that while not described in any detail, announce that there are multiple steps in the OER creation and reuse process that also need to be further described and/or built-out in a more convivial manner.  </p>
<p>For me, this diagram represents a high-level view that could form the basis for a more detailed &#8220;how-to,&#8221; or form the basis of a workshop series that explored all of the *actual* behaviours and practices you note. It might then begin to frame the optimal processes in a *useful and usable* set of resources that could attract more instructors to both create and reuse in whatever manner seemed most efficacious *to them.*</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure I get why this is helpful. Seems like pretty basic rights clearance workflow. If this is what you were looking for, an abstracted idealized workflow that doesn&#039;t reflect actual practice or tools, then I have misunderstood the quest for an &quot;agile OER workflow.&quot; I guess I always simply understood that assessing the rights of a resource to be used is sort of fundamental *if* copyright is even a consideration in reusing materials (an assumption I think we should question in education, where *actual* behaviour seems to largely skip over the copyright issue altogether.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I get why this is helpful. Seems like pretty basic rights clearance workflow. If this is what you were looking for, an abstracted idealized workflow that doesn&#8217;t reflect actual practice or tools, then I have misunderstood the quest for an &#8220;agile OER workflow.&#8221; I guess I always simply understood that assessing the rights of a resource to be used is sort of fundamental *if* copyright is even a consideration in reusing materials (an assumption I think we should question in education, where *actual* behaviour seems to largely skip over the copyright issue altogether.)</p>
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