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		<title>Comment on Finally &#8211; an agile workflow by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/11/finally-an-agile-workflow-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 05:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s do it on WikiEducator.  I started to think about it there a while back and then got busy doing other stuff.  http://wikieducator.org/Agile_wOERkflow

Seems to me there are some major gaps in the whole OER movement related to scaffolding straightforward (agile) process for creation and reuse in a manner that makes the processes feasible/accessible to instructors.  Currently the pain-for-gain threshold seems way too high. 

I&#039;ll read your paper, Peter.  Thanks for providing the link..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s do it on WikiEducator.  I started to think about it there a while back and then got busy doing other stuff.  <a href="http://wikieducator.org/Agile_wOERkflow" rel="nofollow">http://wikieducator.org/Agile_wOERkflow</a></p>
<p>Seems to me there are some major gaps in the whole OER movement related to scaffolding straightforward (agile) process for creation and reuse in a manner that makes the processes feasible/accessible to instructors.  Currently the pain-for-gain threshold seems way too high. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll read your paper, Peter.  Thanks for providing the link..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finally &#8211; an agile workflow by Peter Rawsthorne</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/11/finally-an-agile-workflow-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Rawsthorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 04:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t realize we have been thinking about the same things... http://www.rawsthorne.org/bit/docs/RawsthorneAIDFinal.pdf Now this isn&#039;t directed at OER but it is directed at Agility in Instructional Design... I&#039;d actually like to rewrite the paper to be Agile Learner Design and empower the learner to develop their own OER...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t realize we have been thinking about the same things&#8230; <a href="http://www.rawsthorne.org/bit/docs/RawsthorneAIDFinal.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawsthorne.org/bit/docs/RawsthorneAIDFinal.pdf</a> Now this isn&#8217;t directed at OER but it is directed at Agility in Instructional Design&#8230; I&#8217;d actually like to rewrite the paper to be Agile Learner Design and empower the learner to develop their own OER&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Micro broadcasts for quick pro-d by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2010/05/micro-broadcasts-for-quick-pro-d/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent.  This use of UStream on the micro-level is going to go big for sure.  

Thanks for modelling such an effective tool, Grant.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent.  This use of UStream on the micro-level is going to go big for sure.  </p>
<p>Thanks for modelling such an effective tool, Grant.  </p>
<p>d.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Micro broadcasts for quick pro-d by Grant</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2010/05/micro-broadcasts-for-quick-pro-d/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 17:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you enjoyed the session - happy to ask questions by proxy for any of my UStream webcasts. I&#039;m going to ask Nora Young for permission to UStream her keynote tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you enjoyed the session &#8211; happy to ask questions by proxy for any of my UStream webcasts. I&#8217;m going to ask Nora Young for permission to UStream her keynote tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I need an adventure by Wayne Mackintosh</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2010/04/i-need-an-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 03:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leading innovation is hard work --- I think you already have / know  the answer :-)

Openness -- open thoughts published in twitter, emails, and other avenues can be reused, adapted and modified without restriction.  With each iteration they get better. 

Have fun and look forward to the next wave of inspiration!

Cheers
Wayne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leading innovation is hard work &#8212; I think you already have / know  the answer <img src='http://conviviality.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Openness &#8212; open thoughts published in twitter, emails, and other avenues can be reused, adapted and modified without restriction.  With each iteration they get better. </p>
<p>Have fun and look forward to the next wave of inspiration!</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Wayne</p>
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		<title>Comment on I need an adventure by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2010/04/i-need-an-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 05:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks, Amanda.  

Great morning, and wonderful meeting you and sharing ideas.  Thanks for those helpful links.  I&#039;m going down one of those rabbit holes right now.

Saludos.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Amanda.  </p>
<p>Great morning, and wonderful meeting you and sharing ideas.  Thanks for those helpful links.  I&#8217;m going down one of those rabbit holes right now.</p>
<p>Saludos.</p>
<p>d.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I need an adventure by Amanda Fenton</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2010/04/i-need-an-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Fenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 04:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Wonderful meeting you today. For adventure of a creative sorts, have you heard of morning pages or the artist date? http://www.theartistsway.com/the-basic-tools

And I remember seeing a list of 100 blog post ideas - wrangle some of these to the ground and share &#039;em here: http://www.chrisbrogan.com/100-blog-topics-i-hope-you-write/   

Cheers,
@AmandaFenton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Wonderful meeting you today. For adventure of a creative sorts, have you heard of morning pages or the artist date? <a href="http://www.theartistsway.com/the-basic-tools" rel="nofollow">http://www.theartistsway.com/the-basic-tools</a></p>
<p>And I remember seeing a list of 100 blog post ideas &#8211; wrangle some of these to the ground and share &#8216;em here: <a href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/100-blog-topics-i-hope-you-write/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisbrogan.com/100-blog-topics-i-hope-you-write/</a>   </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
@AmandaFenton</p>
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		<title>Comment on I love my job by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/10/i-love-my-job/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mary.  

I wasn&#039;t really trying to be a &quot;BC booster,&quot;  although I love this province. I just got caught up in what was a confluence of synergies - clear day, perfect flight path, window seat and my iPhone in my pocket.  I had to wonder how many times in life you get this fortunate doing your job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mary.  </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t really trying to be a &#8220;BC booster,&#8221;  although I love this province. I just got caught up in what was a confluence of synergies &#8211; clear day, perfect flight path, window seat and my iPhone in my pocket.  I had to wonder how many times in life you get this fortunate doing your job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I love my job by Mary McKenna</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/10/i-love-my-job/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - I really enjoyed reading your blog post &amp; seeing that photo - thanks for sharing it

Mary  

@MMaryMcKenna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; I really enjoyed reading your blog post &amp; seeing that photo &#8211; thanks for sharing it</p>
<p>Mary  </p>
<p>@MMaryMcKenna</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finally &#8211; an agile workflow by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/11/finally-an-agile-workflow-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, Scott.  Always appreciated

However, I think the diagram describes more than an IP clearance process.  Embedded within it are processes called:  creation, quality control and technical.  I know I have heard you speak (lament) on the quality control (or lack thereof) item at various stages of OER development processes.

These are macro process categories, that while not described in any detail, announce that there are multiple steps in the OER creation and reuse process that also need to be further described and/or built-out in a more convivial manner.  

For me, this diagram represents a high-level view that could form the basis for a more detailed &quot;how-to,&quot; or form the basis of a workshop series that explored all of the *actual* behaviours and practices you note. It might then begin to frame the optimal processes in a *useful and usable* set of resources that could attract more instructors to both create and reuse in whatever manner seemed most efficacious *to them.*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Scott.  Always appreciated</p>
<p>However, I think the diagram describes more than an IP clearance process.  Embedded within it are processes called:  creation, quality control and technical.  I know I have heard you speak (lament) on the quality control (or lack thereof) item at various stages of OER development processes.</p>
<p>These are macro process categories, that while not described in any detail, announce that there are multiple steps in the OER creation and reuse process that also need to be further described and/or built-out in a more convivial manner.  </p>
<p>For me, this diagram represents a high-level view that could form the basis for a more detailed &#8220;how-to,&#8221; or form the basis of a workshop series that explored all of the *actual* behaviours and practices you note. It might then begin to frame the optimal processes in a *useful and usable* set of resources that could attract more instructors to both create and reuse in whatever manner seemed most efficacious *to them.*</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finally &#8211; an agile workflow by Scott Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure I get why this is helpful. Seems like pretty basic rights clearance workflow. If this is what you were looking for, an abstracted idealized workflow that doesn&#039;t reflect actual practice or tools, then I have misunderstood the quest for an &quot;agile OER workflow.&quot; I guess I always simply understood that assessing the rights of a resource to be used is sort of fundamental *if* copyright is even a consideration in reusing materials (an assumption I think we should question in education, where *actual* behaviour seems to largely skip over the copyright issue altogether.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I get why this is helpful. Seems like pretty basic rights clearance workflow. If this is what you were looking for, an abstracted idealized workflow that doesn&#8217;t reflect actual practice or tools, then I have misunderstood the quest for an &#8220;agile OER workflow.&#8221; I guess I always simply understood that assessing the rights of a resource to be used is sort of fundamental *if* copyright is even a consideration in reusing materials (an assumption I think we should question in education, where *actual* behaviour seems to largely skip over the copyright issue altogether.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on I love my job by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/10/i-love-my-job/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Iris.  Yes, whenever I&#039;ve been away, the return to the mountains and green hillsides of British Columbia fills my heart with joy.  I get the same feeling when I travel through the high deserts of the southwestern US.  I think I must have been a nomadic hunter in a former life, traveling between seasonal campsites, making my &quot;living&quot; in the outdoors.

d.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Iris.  Yes, whenever I&#8217;ve been away, the return to the mountains and green hillsides of British Columbia fills my heart with joy.  I get the same feeling when I travel through the high deserts of the southwestern US.  I think I must have been a nomadic hunter in a former life, traveling between seasonal campsites, making my &#8220;living&#8221; in the outdoors.</p>
<p>d.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I love my job by Iris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canada seems even more beautiful when one is away from it. I never appreciated the natural beauty of Canada in the way I do now until I went to Beijing. The snow and the majestic mountains just takes my breath away. I am looking forward to my January where I will be able to return home for a bit and soak it all in! Your post was a wonderful reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canada seems even more beautiful when one is away from it. I never appreciated the natural beauty of Canada in the way I do now until I went to Beijing. The snow and the majestic mountains just takes my breath away. I am looking forward to my January where I will be able to return home for a bit and soak it all in! Your post was a wonderful reminder.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Funny thing about teachers &#8230; by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/08/funny-thing-about-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, Lorne.  Thanks for the comment.

We definitely need to plan for the inclusion of mobile and laptop technologies as a new way of approaching the classroom dynamic.  Better to use it as a positive part of the experience, rather than fighting the exclusion battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, Lorne.  Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>We definitely need to plan for the inclusion of mobile and laptop technologies as a new way of approaching the classroom dynamic.  Better to use it as a positive part of the experience, rather than fighting the exclusion battle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I love my job by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/10/i-love-my-job/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You live in a truly scenic spot, Sylvia - and you get to work from there, too.  Bonus!

d.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You live in a truly scenic spot, Sylvia &#8211; and you get to work from there, too.  Bonus!</p>
<p>d.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I love my job by Sylvia Currie</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/10/i-love-my-job/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I love my job&quot; Hey, you stole my line :-&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I love my job&#8221; Hey, you stole my line :-&gt;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Searching for an agile OER workflow by Randy Fisher</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/09/searching-for-an-agile-oer-workflow/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

Agreed. I also like to build in a mechanism for action research / learning, so that the stakeholders are observing and reflecting, and incorporating their learning (on many levels) to benefit the project&#039;s success (and themselves, of course!). It&#039;s a key piece of &#039;agile (OER) community engagement&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Agreed. I also like to build in a mechanism for action research / learning, so that the stakeholders are observing and reflecting, and incorporating their learning (on many levels) to benefit the project&#8217;s success (and themselves, of course!). It&#8217;s a key piece of &#8216;agile (OER) community engagement&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Searching for an agile OER workflow by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/09/searching-for-an-agile-oer-workflow/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for &lt;em&gt;pilot projects&lt;/em&gt; as long as they have clear beginning and end, and have a pre-defined plan of action to deal with outcomes -  positive (implement, refine, extend) or negative (review, report, nuke).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for <em>pilot projects</em> as long as they have clear beginning and end, and have a pre-defined plan of action to deal with outcomes &#8211;  positive (implement, refine, extend) or negative (review, report, nuke).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Searching for an agile OER workflow by Randy Fisher (aka Wikirandy)</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/09/searching-for-an-agile-oer-workflow/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Fisher (aka Wikirandy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to what comes after what comes next, how about a pilot project  - http://www.wikieducator.org/Pilot_Projects</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to what comes after what comes next, how about a pilot project  &#8211; <a href="http://www.wikieducator.org/Pilot_Projects" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikieducator.org/Pilot_Projects</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Searching for an agile OER workflow by Wayne Mackintosh</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/09/searching-for-an-agile-oer-workflow/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post David,

When you&#039;re so immersed in a project like WE it&#039;s not easy to get objective views about how we are fairing.  Your insights are extremely useful, particularly when measured against the calibre of your experience in ICTs for education.

I look forward to reading your insights on agile OER workflow. I have a keen interest in the topic and this is a priority area for OERF and the WikiEducator  project.

OER is too important to get wrong -- and we&#039;re very receptive to feedback in helping us get this right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post David,</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re so immersed in a project like WE it&#8217;s not easy to get objective views about how we are fairing.  Your insights are extremely useful, particularly when measured against the calibre of your experience in ICTs for education.</p>
<p>I look forward to reading your insights on agile OER workflow. I have a keen interest in the topic and this is a priority area for OERF and the WikiEducator  project.</p>
<p>OER is too important to get wrong &#8212; and we&#8217;re very receptive to feedback in helping us get this right!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Show me yours &#8211; I&#8217;ll show you mine by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/08/show-me-yours-ill-show-you-mine/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this comment, Iris.

You raise a valuable point with respect to the experience of students in this course.  We&#039;ve heard a lot of grieving for the structure and confines of WebCT in the initial weeks of each offering since we migrated away from Blackboard.  After a while, students have then commented on the liberating nature of the experience.  

In our view as instructors, we have to keep the course content and delivery style fluid to suit the nature of an exploration of &quot;ventures in learning technology.&quot;

d.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this comment, Iris.</p>
<p>You raise a valuable point with respect to the experience of students in this course.  We&#8217;ve heard a lot of grieving for the structure and confines of WebCT in the initial weeks of each offering since we migrated away from Blackboard.  After a while, students have then commented on the liberating nature of the experience.  </p>
<p>In our view as instructors, we have to keep the course content and delivery style fluid to suit the nature of an exploration of &#8220;ventures in learning technology.&#8221;</p>
<p>d.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Show me yours &#8211; I&#8217;ll show you mine by Iris</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/08/show-me-yours-ill-show-you-mine/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, 

It&#039;s rather interesting to read your post regarding the course we are currently enrolled in. It really gives a different perspective of how I see my learning. This is my 7th MET course and Webct was the routine for most of the courses I have taken. Going from that to this course was at first very intimidating because I did not realize the intent on making it an &quot;open&quot; method of presenting and teaching. Rather than seeing the &quot;openness&quot;, I saw the chaos. With this realization, I appreciate the layout and form of the course. I am starting to see how it is different and appreciating it because it is different and seeing how different elements start to play out because it is in this form. 

The question of &quot;Are you open enough?&quot; is a good one. I don&#039;t think I was open enough until I realized the rationale in your post. Now, I am embracing the course in a different way and from a different perspective. I am glad I clicked away. :)

Iris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s rather interesting to read your post regarding the course we are currently enrolled in. It really gives a different perspective of how I see my learning. This is my 7th MET course and Webct was the routine for most of the courses I have taken. Going from that to this course was at first very intimidating because I did not realize the intent on making it an &#8220;open&#8221; method of presenting and teaching. Rather than seeing the &#8220;openness&#8221;, I saw the chaos. With this realization, I appreciate the layout and form of the course. I am starting to see how it is different and appreciating it because it is different and seeing how different elements start to play out because it is in this form. </p>
<p>The question of &#8220;Are you open enough?&#8221; is a good one. I don&#8217;t think I was open enough until I realized the rationale in your post. Now, I am embracing the course in a different way and from a different perspective. I am glad I clicked away. <img src='http://conviviality.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Iris</p>
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		<title>Comment on Best before date fast approaching by davidp</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/08/best-before-date-fast-approaching/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This brief response needs to be a longer post, which I&#039;m noodling.

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Your prod at my original question turns it around for response.  Thanks.  

I see the issue of target audience bounded by three primary factors at the &lt;em&gt;Me&lt;/em&gt; level (personal, instructor, faculty, teacher level):

	▪	Pain for gain threshold (resonant value proposition)
	▪	Making my teaching life easier and/or more rewarding
	▪	Making the learning experience for my students more engaging and empowering

Alan Levine&#039;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cogdog.wikispaces.com/AmazingStories&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazing Stories of Openness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; gets at some of resonant value aspects, and the really visceral &quot;why would I do this&quot; terrain.  But it may not be enough for some who will be asking more about the reward system generally for participation. It really is a personal choice for faculty, teachers and instructor whether to engage.  Some will want to, so the process of engaging has to be smooth and elegant as an authoring and reuse workflow.

Brian Lamb&#039;s post prior to the OpenEd 2009 conference that asks, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2009/04/are-you-open-enough/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Are You Open Enough?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is instructive and is a great starting point for working with folks who opt in, or who are on the cusp of opting in.  

Heck, it is the agenda for an agile training program that models straightforward open practices across various disciplines, and provides a viral, convivial pass-along mechanism for working with colleagues.

The part about making the learning experience for students more engaging and empowering is more like an outcome that instructors might use to test the open strategy to see whether it works or needs further adjustment.

All of this lives in a larger context that looks something like:

Me --&gt; my working colleagues --&gt; my peers --&gt; my institution --&gt; my systemic academic orbit --&gt; the world

There needs to be an implementation strategy for all those circles as we move outward.  We saw at least one country-wide strategy on the &lt;em&gt;systemic academic orbit&lt;/em&gt; level from Fred Mulder, from Open University of the Netherlands.  I&#039;m sure there are others out there, too.

Cracking the &lt;em&gt;Me&lt;/em&gt; level participation seems to be on the critical path.  Demonstrating simple, powerful and resonant ways of getting there is what needs to be solicited and shared.  And, I don&#039;t think the proponents of the open movement need to do this all by themselves, either. 

d.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This brief response needs to be a longer post, which I&#8217;m noodling.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>Your prod at my original question turns it around for response.  Thanks.  </p>
<p>I see the issue of target audience bounded by three primary factors at the <em>Me</em> level (personal, instructor, faculty, teacher level):</p>
<p>	▪	Pain for gain threshold (resonant value proposition)<br />
	▪	Making my teaching life easier and/or more rewarding<br />
	▪	Making the learning experience for my students more engaging and empowering</p>
<p>Alan Levine&#8217;s <em><a href="http://cogdog.wikispaces.com/AmazingStories" rel="nofollow">Amazing Stories of Openness</a></em> gets at some of resonant value aspects, and the really visceral &#8220;why would I do this&#8221; terrain.  But it may not be enough for some who will be asking more about the reward system generally for participation. It really is a personal choice for faculty, teachers and instructor whether to engage.  Some will want to, so the process of engaging has to be smooth and elegant as an authoring and reuse workflow.</p>
<p>Brian Lamb&#8217;s post prior to the OpenEd 2009 conference that asks, <a href="http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2009/04/are-you-open-enough/" rel="nofollow"><em>Are You Open Enough?</em></a> is instructive and is a great starting point for working with folks who opt in, or who are on the cusp of opting in.  </p>
<p>Heck, it is the agenda for an agile training program that models straightforward open practices across various disciplines, and provides a viral, convivial pass-along mechanism for working with colleagues.</p>
<p>The part about making the learning experience for students more engaging and empowering is more like an outcome that instructors might use to test the open strategy to see whether it works or needs further adjustment.</p>
<p>All of this lives in a larger context that looks something like:</p>
<p>Me &#8211;> my working colleagues &#8211;> my peers &#8211;> my institution &#8211;> my systemic academic orbit &#8211;> the world</p>
<p>There needs to be an implementation strategy for all those circles as we move outward.  We saw at least one country-wide strategy on the <em>systemic academic orbit</em> level from Fred Mulder, from Open University of the Netherlands.  I&#8217;m sure there are others out there, too.</p>
<p>Cracking the <em>Me</em> level participation seems to be on the critical path.  Demonstrating simple, powerful and resonant ways of getting there is what needs to be solicited and shared.  And, I don&#8217;t think the proponents of the open movement need to do this all by themselves, either. </p>
<p>d.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Best before date fast approaching by Scott Leslie</title>
		<link>http://conviviality.ca/2009/08/best-before-date-fast-approaching/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love to hear more of your ideas on how to attract &quot;the instructor base at which this innovation is aimed and pitched.&quot; David and Stephen&#039;s discussion was actually held precisely to clarify some definitions and language over which they had been stumbling for quite a while, and they explicitly questioned the conversation&#039;s value to anyone else. Yet that said, clearly there is a long way to go before OER becomes mainstream, and any positive and practical suggestions you had on how to move it that way I&#039;m sure would be appreciated by the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to hear more of your ideas on how to attract &#8220;the instructor base at which this innovation is aimed and pitched.&#8221; David and Stephen&#8217;s discussion was actually held precisely to clarify some definitions and language over which they had been stumbling for quite a while, and they explicitly questioned the conversation&#8217;s value to anyone else. Yet that said, clearly there is a long way to go before OER becomes mainstream, and any positive and practical suggestions you had on how to move it that way I&#8217;m sure would be appreciated by the community.</p>
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